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Would our ancestors have benefited from early neanderthals making fire?

BBC Inside Science

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4.51.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 December 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

400 thousand years ago our early human cousins dropped a lighter in a field in the East of England; evidence that was uncovered this week and suggests that early neanderthals might have made fire 350 thousand years earlier than we previously thought. Dr Rebecca Wragg Sykes is honorary researcher at the universities of Cambridge and Liverpool and author of Kindred: Neanderthal Life, Love, Death and Art. She explains what this new discovery could mean for our own ancestors.

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Hello and welcome to Inside Science from the BBC World Service.

0:40.4

In a corner of England 400,000 years ago, a bipedal ape made a spark, made a fire,

0:47.4

and kindled a new course for humanity.

0:50.9

But this, the earliest evidence of human firemaking, revealed this week, did not come from our human lineage.

0:59.0

It came from Neanderthals. What do we take from that? And our global science watcher, Roland Pease,

1:04.9

has had his head turned this week by plants that attract pollinators, not with a pretty flower, but with a warming glow.

1:13.5

Talking of different approaches to reproduction, should we be genetically modifying our domesticated

1:19.3

salmon so that they stop having sex altogether? And I'm joined by Lizzie Gibney,

1:26.6

senior physics reporter at Nature, to review the week in the journals.

1:30.9

Lizzie, what do you have for us?

1:33.0

We have something about just how persuasive chatbots can be and why that should worry us,

1:37.7

and some tantalising hints of dark matter.

1:41.2

Excellent. I look forward to being tantalised.

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