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Working: How Musician Julien Baker Gets Unstuck

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Arts, Music, Tv & Film

4.22K Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

This week, host Isaac Butler talks to musician Julien Baker about her new album Little Oblivions. In the interview, Julien discusses the process of writing the song “Favor” and how she combined pieces that were originally intended to be separate songs. She also describes her revision process and explains why Little Oblivions features more dissonant and abrasive sounds than her previous albums.   After the interview, Isaac and co-host Rumaan Alam help a teacher who wants to bring more creativity into the classroom.  In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Julien talks about some of the music that has inspired her recently.  Send your questions about creativity and any other feedback to working@slate.com or give us a call at (304) 933-9675. Podcast production by Cameron Drews. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on Working. Sign up now to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.5

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0:10.4

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0:12.8

We think that makes energy a little bit better, and that's why we're always working towards

0:17.6

helping you get more out of your energy.

0:20.2

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0:22.4

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0:27.2

criteria and geographical restrictions apply.

0:30.9

Sometimes running a business can feel like cycling uphill, with square wheels.

0:40.4

But zero online accounting software can help predict the future cash flow of your business.

0:45.6

So you can stay one step ahead. Soon it'll feel more like free-wheeling downhill.

0:51.3

On a tandem. What, mate? With a messer on the back.

0:54.8

Oh, that's nice.

0:56.4

Search zero with an X, because healthy business is beautiful business.

1:05.7

You can imbue basically anything with symbolism if you just open yourself up to thinking about

1:11.3

it that way. If you are paying attention, like you can recognize how significant or poetic,

1:17.2

you know, somebody's off-hand comment can beat. You just have to like not dismiss it as boring.

1:26.4

Welcome back to working. I'm your host, Ramon Alom.

1:33.6

And I'm your other host, Isaac Butler. Isaac, our listeners might recognize the voice that we

1:39.0

just heard had she been singing and not speaking. Who was your guest this week?

1:44.8

My guest this week is the great singer, performer, songwriter, rock musician, multi-instrumentalist,

1:50.5

Julian Baker. So you may remember that one of my creative New Year's resolutions was to

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