In today's fast-changing digital world, proving your company's trustworthy isn't just important for growth.

It's essential. That's why Vanta is here. Vanta helps companies of all sizes get compliant, fast,

and stay that way with their proprietary AI, automation and continuous monitoring.

So whether you're a startup tackling your first SOC 2 or ISO-27-001 or an enterprise

managing vendor risk, Vanta's trust management platform makes it quicker, easier and more scalable.

It even helps you complete security questionnaires up to five times faster, so you can close bigger deals sooner. And the impact? According to a recent

IDC study, Vanta customers cut over $500,000 a year in costs and boost productivity by three

times. Establishing trust isn't optional. Vanta makes it automatic. Visit vanta.com slash go to sign up for a free demo today.

That's V-A-N-T-A.com slash G-O.

9, 12, 10, 28, 2, 23.

This is Deep State Radio, coming to direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C., and from other undisclosed locations

across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to DSR's Words Matter. I'm David Rothkopf, and I am joined today as every single

week by Norm Ornstein.

I'm very, very hesitant to ask you, Norm, but how are you doing?

I'm persevering.

Let's put it that way, David.

This is every day that goes by, we have more horrors and more horror stories.

And I think the last week, and especially the last day or two, have been even more horrible.

Well, why is that, Norm? Why is the last day or two more horrible?

Let's talk about a couple of things. One is what we've seen happening in Chicago and Portland,

and it is very clearly, to me, a deliberate effort by Stephen Miller and the people around Trump, by Christy Nome and Tom Holman to provoke violence, to get for themselves videos that seem to show riots, but that have actually been created by

...