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Won't You Be My Neighbor? A Civic Vision for the Internet — with Eli Pariser

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🗓️ 23 December 2020

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

You’ve heard us talk before on this podcast about the pitfalls of trying to moderate a “global public square.” Our guest today, Eli Pariser, co-director of Civic Signals, co-founder of Avaaz, and author of "The Filter Bubble," has been thinking for years about how to create more functional online spaces and is bringing people together to solve that problem. He believes the answer lies in creating spaces and groups intentionally, with the same kinds of skilled support and infrastructure that we would enlist in the physical world. It’s not enough to expect the big revenue-oriented tech companies to transform their tools into something less harmful; Eli is encouraging us to proactively gather in our own spaces, optimized for togetherness and cooperation.

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0:00.0

If we don't have spaces where we can start to come to some common understanding, like the whole democracy thing doesn't work.

0:08.0

But how do we do that? How do we speak to each other in a divided society.

0:13.5

And I think the exciting thing, the really positive thing,

0:16.8

is that these problems are solvable

0:19.3

and we know that because they have been solved many times before.

0:22.7

I am very pleased to have someone I admire, respect,

0:26.5

and have known for many years and call a friend, Eli Pariser,

0:30.0

who is author of The Filter Bubble, and gave a very famous TED Talk that led to many of the things everyone now is talking about in terms of echo chambers, the dangers of personalization.

0:40.0

Eli also runs Civic Signals, which is a non that is reimagining the new digital public spaces that we need.

0:47.0

And importantly, is putting on a festival called the New Public Festival, happening January 12th through 14th online. The reason that I wanted to invite Eli on is you know a lot of people now

0:58.2

we estimate close to about a hundred million people have seen the social dilemma, which is incredible.

1:03.2

And obviously the film enumerates all the harms and the problem with these digital social spaces

1:08.6

that we now inhabit, but it doesn't talk about the solutions.

1:12.2

And I think what Eli's doing with the festival

1:14.3

is trying to say, how do we actually do this

1:16.9

and is this actually tractable?

1:18.8

We know this is a civilization challenge,

1:20.9

but there's so many people who are like putting their hands up and like, I'm ready. I want to be part of solving this thing.

1:26.2

Our minds have been so engineered to expect so little from the way that we engage online that we've kind of forgotten just how rich the alternative space is.

1:36.0

And I hope that the new public festival is a first step and one of many steps towards all of us imagining not just the dilemma but the social solutions.

1:50.0

I'm Tristan Harris and this is your undivided attention and would love for you to talk a little about why this isn't such an intractable problem.

2:11.0

It's just on, so first off, thank you so much for the work that you've been doing.

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