Welcome to Just Between Us, the podcast with all of the answers, some of the time.

A bit of a different thing going on this week.

You've been immature and you've lied.

And now you're trying to turn it on me and manipulate me and gaslight me.

I was trying to manipulate you.

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

I don't know.

I guess you'd have to ask.

Someone that has sex.

Someone that has sex.

And remember, it's just between us.

Welcome to the History Extra podcast.

Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History Magazine and BBC

History Revealed.

You might think that the Crusades of the Middle Ages were a purely male enterprise. But while that may have been

the case on the battlefield, it certainly wasn't elsewhere. Helen Nicholson is a medieval historian

and the author of a new book Women and the Crusades, which delves into the archives to uncover

just how vital a role women played in crusading campaigns

in recruitment, support, patronage and prayer.

Emily Griffith spoke to Helen to find out more.

So I want to go right back to the start.

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