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Woman's Hour

Women rowers in Venice; Former Afghan women's minister; Julia Peyton-Jones; Non-disclosure agreements

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

It's the first year in which women and men are awarded equal prize money in Venice's annual rowing race, the Regata Storica. Emma speaks to lead campaigner and professional rower, Elena Almansi.

This week the Taliban announced that all women must wear hijab and will be segregated in universities. Emma is joined by the former Minister for Women's Affairs, Hasina Safi, who is now with her family in a hotel in the UK having escaped under cover in the final days of the evacuation. Emma also speaks to Carolyn Webster, who stood as a parliamentary candidate for the Conservative Party in the last general election and is now an independent councillor in Bridgend in Wales. She has been organising collections for Afghans stuck in British hotels after quarantined and is concerned about their conditions.

For 25 years Julia Peyton-Jones was director at the Serpentine Gallery in London. Under her tenure the number of visitors to the gallery in an old tea pavilion in Hyde Park rose from 200,000 to more than one million. Announcing her departure in 2016, she said she wanted to spend more time painting. 'I will be starting all over again,' she said at the time. 'I am 64. My goal is to live to 100 and remain in really good shape.' Less than a year later, she became a mother, returning from California with a baby daughter. The press covered the story extensively but Julia chose not to give any interviews. Now she has brought out a book called Pia's World consisting of drawings she did every night in 2020, of her and her daughter's day. In this first broadcast interview, Julia joins Emma in the studio.

A campaign to outlaw the misuse of NDAs, non-disclosure agreements, in jurisdictions around the world is launched today. Campaigners say too many of these agreements enable powerful individuals and businesses to cover up sexual harassment, racism and other wrong doing. Joining Emma are the two women fronting the campaign - Zelda Perkins, the first woman to break an NDA with Harvey Weinstein, and Canadian law professor and author Dr Julie MacFarlane. We also hear from Emma Bartlett, employment law specialist at C M Murray.

Transcript

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searching and a lot more auction listen on BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:35.0

Hello, I'm Emma Barnet and welcome to Woman's A from BBC Radio 4.

0:39.6

Good morning and welcome to today's programme.

0:42.2

One of my guests today had the art world at

0:44.2

her feet as director of the Serpentine Gallery and celebrities hoping she would

0:48.2

invite them to what became one of London's society parties of the year, but

0:52.4

Julia Payton Jones decided to leave it all behind, to have more time to paint, and to have a child. She was 64.

1:00.0

All hell broke loose in the papers with headlines so judgmental and vitriolics she was

1:04.3

apparently advised by a PR expert to leave the country.

1:07.7

I'll be talking to her shortly about her decision to be an older mother in her first

1:11.6

broadcast interview. But what have you done at an age that people

1:15.7

don't think you should have done? Tell us how you perhaps smashed the age stereotypes. What did you

1:20.9

do it the age people didn't expect you to do something?

1:24.0

Perhaps it was having a child, older or younger.

1:27.0

Gaining a qualification, getting married, a particular trip or adventure,

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