Gooday, humans. Well, I've learned a lot in the past couple of weeks about the limits of having uncomfortable conversations and the, not everyone's crazy about having uncomfortable conversations. They're much more in favor of demonizing people who they don't like.

So the episode before last, before the Pride episode, which was the last one, was a taping

of my live event with Peter Singer at the Enmore Theatre in Sydney.

And we promoted on social media using the sort of sexiest, most clickbaity, most controversial

part of that evening,

which was Peter Singer talking about his most controversial opinion. Now, Singer is pretty

indisputably the world's most influential moral philosopher, has had a massive impact on the

world in encouraging people to be more generous and more expansive in their conception, in their empathic

imagination, basically. He coined the term animal liberation when he wrote that book in the 1970s.

He's had an enormous impact on animal welfare, an enormous impact on people's generosity

towards poor people in poor countries, and an enormous impact on the effect of altruism movement,

which takes a sort of a clinical and scientific approach to the amount of good that each dollar

of spending on charity can do.

Tremendously influential individual.

But one of his opinions is very edgy.

And he was telling me in the interview, which if you listen to the whole thing,

you would understand, but many of these critics don't. And if you read his literature, then you

would understand, but many of these critics don't. He was telling me that in the 70s and 80s,

this opinion of his, which has to do with euthanasia, was getting him death threats and de-platformed and making

him very controversial and the target of a lot of hate from the religious right, who felt that

he was breaching the sanctity of life ethic.

And then things died down and everyone sort of,

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