Welcome back to The Word on Fire show. I'm your host, Matthew Petrusig.

Today we are bringing you the second half of a conversation that Bishop Barron had with Brendan Thompson during a trip to London.

Brendan is program manager of the Word on Fire Institute in the United Kingdom, where he works to promote the faith in a deeply secularized culture.

In this conversation, they explore Bishop Barron's unique methods for public speaking and preaching, among other related topics.

Enjoy.

So we're going to just move now to talking about our week here in London.

So we've been preparing for longer than expected.

So we were meant to have it in September gone.

And you were there in Rome on the Thursday.

And then later that evening, the Queen died.

The Queen died.

I remember talking to your brother John on the phone. I think you were in a

restaurant in Rome. We were in a restaurant with my brother and Father Paul Murray. I don't know if your

listeners know him, but a great spiritual teacher at the Angelicum and Rome, an old friend. And we were out

for dinner. And before dinner, he said, I say, you know, the queen evidently is quite ill. And he said, oh, I would, I'm sure she'll be, you know, she'll survive for many more. And then in the

course of that dinner, we got the word that she had died. And so we made, it was difficult,

but it was the right decision not to come because, you know, that week was very chaotic here.

And so anyway, reschedule for now and here we are. Yeah, and it's been a fantastic start. So at this

point, we had Parliament on Monday. So you had a tour of Parliament, which you'd never had a tour of

Parliament before. Just share with us a little bit of your impressions. I loved it. I was saying to

someone this morning, it really was one of the most memorable days of my life yesterday, because

I love history and I love

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