Welcome back to the Word on Fire show.

I'm your host, Matthew Petrusig.

We are continuing our walk through Bishop Barron's lecture series

on one of the most important Catholic theologians

of the 20th century, Hans Ores von Balthasar. Enjoy.

So we're talking about the theodramatique, the theodrama. We saw last time this play between infinite and finite freedom is essential.

We don't find our freedom over and against God, but we find our true freedom precisely in relation to God.

Now, where's all this come from? I was doing some philosophical musing about it.

But see, all of that philosophical musing finally comes from one place, from Christ himself.

So the definitive play between infinite and finite freedom takes place within

Jesus. So in the classical Christology of the church, we talk about the unity of Jesus' person.

He's one person. But within the unity of his person, we have the play of two natures, don't we?

Divine and human. There's something like a real divine self-consciousness and a real human

self-consciousness within Jesus. Two minds? Yeah. Don't say there's only one mind in Christ.

And two wills in Christ. Go back to the 7th century.

There was a great debate about this within Christianity called the monothelite controversy.

Monotheotism just means one will. And the view here was, you know, kind of commonsensical that

there's one will in Jesus, which is the divine will.

There's no human will that's in competition with it.

No, but the great Orthodox tradition, read Maximus the confessor here, who suffered a lot for what he said.

But Maximus said, no, no, if we take the Christology of the church seriously we have to say in Jesus divine

nature and human nature there are two minds and there are two wills the human will is not negated

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