that you sure you could say someone is motivated

psychologically to be a believer,

but I think you can be just as motivated

psychologically to be a non-believer.

But I think indeed objectively what happens

if God is dead is you have a moral and metaphysical chaos.

Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Brandon Vock, the Senior Publishing Director.

Today we continue our series of discussions looking at four massively influential figures

who together help explain our present moment, how we got to where we are in the culture

today. Today's figure is Frederick Nietzsche, the German philosopher and cultural critic.

And to discuss him is his excellency Bishop Robert Barron, new bishop of the diocese

of Winona, Rochester, and Minnesota. Bishop it's good to be with you.

Hey Brandon, good to see you.

You recently, I think this was maybe about a month ago by the time this episode airs ordained

some Dominicans out in San Francisco. Talk about that.

Love that, yeah it's a great privilege obviously. The great privilege of being a bishop is to

ordain men of the priesthood. I think I've ordained what 11 or 12 fellows now including the

first ones are a dain were Dominicans on the East Coast in Washington and then the Western

province invited me. And I ordained these three wonderful fellows. I met them the morning

of the ordination we had breakfast together and then it took place at a gorgeous church

in San Francisco. I've been there many years before called St. Dominics. It's like a shard.

I mean it's a beautiful, beautiful stained glass windows all over wonderful church. The

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