People find real values, objective goods in the world.

But our job is now to lead them to the sumum bonus

that's beyond even these great values they discovered.

Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show.

I am Brandon Vatis and you're publishing director at Word on Fire.

What is the meaning of it all?

What's the meaning of life? How do we find it?

That's what we're going to be discussing today with Bishop Robert Barron

who joins us in studio, Bishop. Good to see you.

Hey Brandon, always good to be with you.

We got a new issue of the evangelization and culture journal

which just came out. This of course is our quarterly journal

for members of the Word on Fire Institute.

If you're not yet a member, now's a good time to sign up.

You can get a free copy of this journal.

But the new edition is on the topic of freedom.

I know you've had a chance to check it out, Bishop.

Maybe say a few words about it.

That's fantastic. You know, Shapo to Todd Warner,

our great editor, who does a marvelous job in the design team.

It's just a beautiful magazine to hold in your hands and to look at.

And it's filled with good stuff.

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