Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Brandon Vot, the senior publishing director

at Word on Fire. Today we have a great discussion for you between Bishop Baron and Sal de

Stefano from Mind Pump Media. This was a discussion that aired on the Mind Pump podcast earlier

this year back in February. If you don't know Mind Pump, it's one of the most popular

fitness podcasts in the world. They brought on a Catholic Bishop to talk about several

things including society, culture, the intellectual, moral, and spiritual dimensions of the human

person, and especially why a purely secular framework is not enough to generate human happiness.

So it's a fascinating discussion. It's about an hour long. We hope you enjoy it. Before

we get there though, I want to mention an exciting new initiative at Word on Fire, which is

beginning today, today, November the 8th. It is our Dave Verboom Reading Challenge.

Dave Verboom is one of the four major constitutions, one of the four major documents of the

Second Vatican Council, of Vatican II. And right now we're hosting a two week guided

reading journey through this document. So if you've never read Dave Verboom, now's your

chance to do it. It's a relatively short document. You could probably read the whole thing

in one sitting and maybe I don't know, 30 minutes, 45 minutes, but we're going to take

it in small chunks. And you'll also receive special video lessons guiding you through

this document from Richard DeClu, who's a fellow in our Word on Fire Institute. So it's

totally free, totally easy and simple. We'll send you everything you need through email.

So sign up. I've included the link in the show notes. Again, it's the Dave Verboom Reading

Challenge. Well, with that, I turn you over to Bishop Baron and sell the stuff on

O from Mind Pump Media for this great interview titled an antidote to hostility. Enjoy.

Bishop Baron, thank you so much for taking the time for me to be able to talk to you about

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