Welcome back to the Word on Fire Show. I'm Brandon Vot, the host and the content director

here at Word on Fire Catholic Ministries. Joining us fresh off of a couple of big exciting

trips we're going to talk about here in a second is Bishop Robert Barron. Bishop Barron

good to see you.

Brandon, always good to see you and hear from you.

Well, I want to save the USCCB meeting for next week. We'll talk about that and recap

that next week.

Okay.

But shortly before that you were in Washington, DC where you were speaking to a group

of congressmen and women. Tell us about that.

It was exciting. I spoke at the Library of Congress in a beautiful room and they invited

this kind of open invitation to senators congressmen and people that work on the hill. So we

got a sampling of all three of those populations.

spoke for about an hour and I talked about a sort of interface between spirituality and

politics around this theme of vocation. So I asked them all to go back to when they

first felt the call to be a public servant to serve the purposes of justice. And I suggested

that in our theology, Catholic theology, that's really equivalent to a call from God because

God is justice itself. God is the great high ideal of justice itself. So when you feel

that call to be a servant of justice, it's like being called by God. And then I went

from there to look at some biblical stories of the call in the call of Samuel, the call

of Isaiah. And then related a bit to Thomas Gliness and his understanding of law. So I just

tried to weave a number of themes together that I hope would give people that work in politics

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