Welcome back to the Word on Fire show. I'm Brandon Vod, the host of the show and the

content director at Word on Fire, and joining me as he is every week is Bishop Robert

Barron. Bishop Barron, welcome. Thank you, Brandon, how are you doing today?

Hey, I'm doing really well. You know, we're all excited at Word on Fire as the launch date

for pivotal players, nears. I know for you, especially, it has to be an exciting time.

It is. I mean, those are long processes. I've done now two of these major film series,

and you realize, gosh, how much work is involved and how much time and effort and teamwork,

you know, so what it finally is coming out, you have a great sense of satisfaction.

I've been mentioning it on each of the last few episodes, but again, please check it out.

Go visit pivotalplayers.com. There's lots of sample videos up there. I think once you

see just a minute or two of the clips, you're going to be blown away. So check it out, make

sure to pre-order your copy. It comes out on September 1st, and you'll be one of the first

to see these magnificent episodes. Now, Bishop, you had a wonderful house guest there in Santa

Barbara for the last week. He's one of my favorite spiritual writers. He contributes to the Word

on Fire blog. He's written several great books. He is Father Paul Murray. So tell us a little

bit about him and the time you had together. Oh, yeah. Paul Murray is a great, great man,

a great friend. We met, I think, first in the year 2000. He was a visiting scholar at

Mondeline Seminary. Paul is an Irish Dominican. He's been teaching for the past many, many years

at the Angelicum in Rome. So he's come to know all kinds of people through that, but also he travels

the world as a retreat master, as a speaker. He's also a very good writer. He's written, I think,

the most compelling things on the Dominican spiritual tradition. He's a great advocate of St.

Thomas Aquinas. So we have that very much in common. But we've been friends for a long time.

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