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With OpenAI seeking profits, activist seeks payback to the public

Marketplace Tech

American Public Media

Technology, News

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

A battle is brewing over the restructuring of OpenAI, the creator of pioneering artificial intelligence chatbot ChatGPT. It was founded as a nonprofit in 2015 with the goal of developing AI to benefit humanity, not investors. But advanced AI requires massive processing power, which gets expensive, feeding into the company’s decision to take on major investors. Recently, OpenAI unveiled a plan to transition into a for-profit public benefit corporation. That plan has drawn objections from the likes of Elon Musk, Meta and Robert Weissman, co-president of consumer advocacy group Public Citizen, which urged California authorities to ensure that as OpenAI reorganizes, it will repay much of the benefits it received as a nonprofit.

 

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0:00.0

The Pivot to Profit for Open AI.

0:04.3

From American Public Media, this is Marketplace Tech.

0:07.7

I'm Megan McCarty Carrino.

0:09.4

A battle is brewing over the restructuring of Open AI, the maker of ChatGPT.

0:24.7

It was founded as a non-profit in 2015 with the goal of developing artificial intelligence

0:31.6

to benefit humanity, not investors. But advanced AI requires advanced processing power, which gets expensive,

0:41.2

leading the company to take on major investors and recently announced a plan to transition

0:46.5

into a for-profit public benefit corporation. That plan has drawn objections from the likes of

0:53.0

Elon Musk, MEDA, and Robert Weissman,

0:57.0

co-president of Consumer Advocacy Group Public Citizen, which urged California to ensure Open AIs restructuring

1:04.1

will sufficiently repay its nonprofit benefits.

1:08.0

Being a nonprofit enabled them to accept donations, and that was the model for the

1:13.2

nonprofit, just like it's the model for other nonprofits. They had donated cash and in-kind donations

1:19.4

of computational power to do their work to develop this new technology. They didn't have to

1:26.4

pretend that they were going to be able to return

1:28.3

investment to people. They were asking them to do it on a charitable basis, and they were able

1:32.8

to raise a significant amount of money and resources through that approach.

1:37.9

So I understand in 2019, OpenAI kind of transitioned to a different structure so that it

1:44.0

could take money from investors

1:45.4

like Microsoft. But the business, the capped profit business, has still been governed ostensibly

1:51.8

by the nonprofit. Now it is looking to transition into a for-profit public benefit corporation, what does the law say about

2:05.3

what is required to make this kind of pivot? Well, this is a very, very unusual thing. And exactly

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