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I'm Michael Krasny.

This week, the United States marked a grim milestone.

More than 200,000 deaths from the coronavirus pandemic.

Against this backdrop, Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar moved to bar

the national health agencies, including the Food and Drug Administration, from signing

off on any new rules without his consent.

Azar's sweeping declaration, called by some as a power grab, would affect regulation of the nation's foods, medicines, medical devices, and other products, including vaccines.

That's according to a September 15th memo obtained by the New York Times, and we're going to talk about the federal response of the pandemic and how the nation is faring in its fight against COVID-19.

Joining us is James Hamlin, physician and staff writer for the Atlantic and co-host of the

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