Wireless Wars: China's Dangerous Domination of 5G | Jon Pelson

Hidden Forces

Demetri Kofinas

Business, Government

4.8 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 27 September 2021

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In Episode 212 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with telecom industry veteran and author of "Wireless Wars," Jon Pelson, about how American companies invented cellular technology, transferred that technology to China, and then sat by and watched as their Chinese competitors drove them out of business.

He shares stories from the executives and scientists who built the industry, as well as those of Western politicians, businesspeople, and members of the military who cooperated with and in some cases actively aided the Chinese government and its state champions in their efforts to overtake and crush their western competitors.

The first part of today's conversation is spent familiarizing listeners with 5G technology, how it works, and why it's important to the future of automation, commerce, and national security. Pelson also goes into some of the details around technology transfers, the rise of Huawei, and the relationship between the Chinese telecommunications industry and the CCP.

The episode Overtime focuses mainly on how China uses our weaknesses against us, corrupting public officials and top corporate executives in their effort to overtake American companies in key industries that the Chinese Communist Party deems vital for its national security and global ambitions. Jon also explains how the United States can fight back, turning those same weaknesses into strengths by leveraging a culture of permissionless innovation to retake the lead in global telecommunications and related industries that are vital for the long-term competitiveness of American industry & national security.

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Episode Recorded on 09/20/2021

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0:00.0	What's up everybody? My name is the Major Cofinas, and you're listening to Hidden Forces,
0:06.0	a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs, and everyday citizens to challenge consensus narratives,
0:13.0	and to learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world.
0:18.0	My guest in this week's episode is John Pelson.
0:21.0	John is a telecommunications industry veteran who has worked for companies like Lucent
0:26.0	where he helped create and market some of the companies' breakthrough technology solutions,
0:31.0	as well as British Telecom, where he served as chief of convergence strategy
0:35.0	and helped develop a global wireless plan for the UK's largest provider of fixed line,
0:40.0	broadband, and mobile services.
0:43.0	Most importantly though, for the purposes of this conversation,
0:46.0	John is the author of a timely new book titled Wireless Wars,
0:51.0	where he tells the story of how America and the American companies responsible for inventing cellular technology
0:58.0	transferred that technology to China as part of the offshoring of manufacturing
1:02.0	and R&D that began in the 1990s and then sat by and watched as their newly empowered Chinese competitors
1:10.0	drove them out of business.
1:12.0	He shares stories from the executives and scientists who built the industry
1:16.0	as well as those of Western politicians, business people, and members of the military
1:21.0	who cooperated with and in some cases actively aided the Chinese government
1:26.0	and its state champions in their efforts to overtake and crush their Western competitors.
1:32.0	The first part of today's conversation is spent familiarizing listeners with 5G technology,
1:37.0	how it works, and why it's important for the future of automation, commerce, and national security,
1:43.0	who are also getting into some of the details of the book as they relate to technology transfers,
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