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Welcome to your ride about where Jamie Loftus, I'm gonna ask you to do a tagline. You've been here a couple times now.

Let's see. Welcome to your wrong about this show where sometimes ghosts is just incompetence and light domestic abuse.

That's the reveal. Kind of a bummer one. That's the story behind the best seller. We have nonfiction books of an era trying to ask,

is the supernatural real and as far as we can tell the answer is no, but believing it is preferable to realizing how treacherous the people in your family are.

Brutal. We did a bonus episode about the Amityville Horror movies that we put on Patreon and there's gonna be a little sneak preview of that at the end of this episode.

I can never tell if anything is funny because once you say a joke you can't hear it again, but it was fun to do it. It was so fun. We fell on different sides of the Berlin versus Reynolds,

George Lutz, depiction dichotomy. So I think that it's it's a rich task to it's a good debate. We're gonna dive into the last act of the story and then talk a little bit about what reality surrounds it.

But where else can people find your work Jamie once they need to get more of it?

I do a combination of podcasts and comedy, but you can find my podcast work. I've done a bunch of investigative series. One is called My Year in Mensa.

One is about the Kathy comics called Accast. One is about the cultural history of Lolita called Lolita podcast.

And I'm currently working on a big project about hot dogs. So if you live in the LA area and you want to see a big long goofy show about hot dog murder,

you can come see my show Mrs. Joseph Chestnut America USA at the Elisabeth Theater in LA.

I'm really sad that I can't go see this. So if you're able to, then you have to. It will make me happy. Do it for Sarah.

Yeah, and I think something about this book that I continue to find interesting is that it really became modern day folkloric, changed America, affected the kind of scary stories that we told.

And it's not very good writing and there's I think something about the not goodness of the writing that's working for it rather than against it starts to feel like a journal.

Yeah, it just feels authentic. I think we're drawn to that. Well, and where did we leave off? It's been a minute. Yeah, I think we left off somewhere around where the slime is coming down the walls.

Things are really starting to get wild in the haunted house sense. And George tasted the slime.

Yeah, and we've ended with George having a fit of rage basically yelling at the ghosts and feeling like he needs to have some kind of throw down with the ghosts who are trying to force him out, but he has too much money tied up in the house.

Yes, which was the problem from literally moment. Yeah, but no one could have foreseen. Yeah. This contains one of my favorite haunted house story motifs man yells at ghosts.

And George says you sons of bitches get out of my house get out get out in the name of God. He sounds kind of like Jerry Seinfeld when I do him.

He's running around and we closed the last episode we did with Sargent John Fridow cruising around and noticing what seems like a domestic disturbance with George charging around furiously upstairs and

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