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Stansberry Investor Hour

Winning Stocks Can Still Be Losing Investments

Stansberry Investor Hour

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4.4677 Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2025

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

On this week's Stansberry Investor Hour, Dan and Corey welcome Rupal Bhansali back to the show. Rupal is the founder, CEO, chief investment officer, and portfolio manager of investment adviser Double Duty Money Management. She's also the author of the book Non-Consensus Investing and a leading figure in value investing, with more than three decades of experience.

Rupal kicks off the show by discussing her investment philosophy, how she defines "winning" in the stock market, the main misconception about contrarian investing, and why it's more important to not lose money in the market than to earn money. She warns investors that they can still lose money when investing in a high-quality company. As she says, the key to value investing is low downside. Rupal uses the auto industry as an example of a low-quality, cyclical industry, but highlights the hidden opportunity in tires, which are a consumer staple and not cyclical. (0:38)

Next, Rupal talks about getting the best of both worlds with growth and value investing. She notes that this is very difficult to do today with U.S. stocks but that there are many untapped opportunities abroad – especially in Latin America. Rupal then delves into the world of diversification, including why having uncorrelated investment ideas in your portfolio is so crucial. This leads to a conversation about knowing when to buy more shares when one of your stocks is down versus cutting your losses and selling completely. Rupal outlines three core reasons to sell a stock, regardless of whether a stop loss was hit or not. (16:15)

Finally, Rupal gives her opinion on buying companies like Costco Wholesale that have very high multiples but keep trading higher. She says the reward isn't worth the risk, since there are 49 non-Costcos for every Costco, and trying to find the one winner is very difficult. Rupal reiterates that it's all about cutting your losses early, accepting that you'll get things wrong, and learning from your mistakes. She also covers the wider macro environment relating to President Donald Trump's tariffs, clarifying that she's "macro aware" rather than "macro driven." (29:48)

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Stansberry Investor Hour. I'm Dan Ferris. I'm the editor of Extreme Value and the Ferris Report, both published by Stansberry Research. And I'm Corey McLaughlin, editor of the Stansberry Daily Digest. Today we talk with Rupel Fonsali, CEO of Double Duty Money Management. It's been five years since we had Rupel on the show, and I'm telling you that's way too long.

0:21.3

Once you hear her talk, you'll be like, wow, you should have her on a lot more.

0:25.4

So I promise you, we will definitely try to do that.

0:28.7

But let's just do it right now.

0:30.4

Let's talk with Rupal Bonsali.

0:32.3

Let's do it right now.

0:38.4

Rupil, welcome back to the show.

0:40.1

It's been a little while.

0:41.1

It's been five years since we talked to you the first time.

0:44.6

Time flies.

0:46.3

Yes, it does.

0:46.9

It's not estranged for me personally, but happy to be here again.

0:50.7

Yeah.

0:51.7

So I have to tell my listener, Rupil and I are so much on the same page

0:57.7

about investing that, you know, I hope this doesn't seem like I'm throwing her a bunch of softballs,

1:01.6

but it just might. So the first thing I want to talk about is last time when you were on the

1:09.3

show, we focused mostly on your book

1:10.9

non-consensus investing which i keep my copy close by i keep it with all my other value books

1:17.1

which are closest to my hands um and i would like to sort of just reiterate maybe we could just

1:27.1

reiterate your process and your orientation. And

1:31.6

if we could start like non-consensus investing, a lot of people call themselves, you know,

1:37.8

non-consensus or unconventional. They say they're looking for things that other people don't

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