We're not trying to do a lot of this stuff because it's not what we do. We don't think one company can do everything. So you've got to partner with people that are really good at stuff. Like we're not, I mean, maybe Microsoft is great at search. We're not. We're not trying to be great at search. So we partner with people that are great at search. And we don't know how to do maps on the back end.

We know how to do a great, the best maps client in the world, but we don't know how to do the back end.

So we partner with people that know how to do the back end.

And what we want to do is be that consumer's device and that consumer's experience

wrapped around all this information and things we can deliver to them in a wonderful

user interface, in a coherent product.

And so in some cases, you know, we have to do more work than others.

You know, in the case of iTunes, there wasn't a music delivery service that was any good,

and we had to do one, so we'll do one.

But in other cases, there's companies doing a way better job because

we're not as good at this stuff as other people are, and we'd love to partner with them. And so,

you know, we selectively do that. And I think it's really hard for one company to do everything.

Gosh, man, time flies. I'd say right around four, four or five years ago um i just kind of felt like we were stuck

and i wasn't my wheels weren't moving and i had this goal and i just didn't really know how to get there

so uh you guys actually helped me with that and i you know reached out to you guys we started our

relationship we started our coaching sessions and and you guys helped me build a lot of the

systems um that we have now.

But you know, Clay, had I not actually sat down and took the time and the energy to reach

out to you and then set aside time every single week to actually work on the specific goal

of scaling window ninjas, then it would have never happened and we wouldn't have the,

it wouldn't have come to fruition like it is today. Gabe Salinas, welcome on to the Thrive Time Show. How are you, sir? I am wonderful, Clay. I'm glad to be here with you today. And just to get people a little context, how long have we worked with you and your, in your business, sir? A little over three years clay we've been together for a little bit of a journey now. And I think we picked the best of times and the worst of times to work together. I mean, it's like right at the peak of the geopolitical craziness. That's what we started working with you. But you've continued to grow. What kind of growth have you seen over these past three years just so the listeners know that you do have in fact a business that can navigate through difficult times well we have over doubled our our business here at winon inches since working with you i actually went back and looked through our numbers and

i looked at some of our goals that we had set in the original conversation that i had with your team

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