I can promise you that having to tackle William Floyd many moons ago in like junior midgets football,

we can't even say that anymore, can we?

Jimmy Peeley football was difficult.

And then they only got more difficult the older he got and then became a star at Florida State.

I never got to play in a Florida State Miami game, but you did.

And I watched every one of them.

And I want to go through all of them.

Right.

What's it like? Tell our listeners, what's it like to step on. Okay, so 91's wide right. 92 is another miss, unfortunately. Wow, right. Yeah. And I think that game, that's a game. You have like three catches for 50-something yards, right? If the memory serves right down there.

And I remember your first catch because I'm cheering for it.

That's my man right there.

And I'm cheering for it.

That's my man right there. And I'm excited for you. And you were brash even then, felt what you could tell you deserved to be out there, wanted to be out there, making plays. And then obviously we know what happens in 93. Right. So take me through the arc of all of this. What's it like for a player the first time they're in this rivalry?

Well, for me, my first time, of course, is 19.9. I was a red shirt, but Coach Biden used to take a few players down his red shirts. You get to hang out on the sideline. And I couldn't go because I was being mischievous that particular week. He told me, like, well, you're just my most Mr. most mischievous kid. You just always into something. But that particular week, I threw powder on somebody in the shower and that stopped that. So that's 90 out of there. 91, I get a chance to play in that game. And I never forget the first one of the first plays on the goal line. I'm up, got my pads high. And I look at that as one of the

plays that changed the trajectory of the game. It should have never came down to a kick. I get knocked on my butt on the goal line, but it was my walking to college football moment that I'd have never happened again. Then, of course, we have that wide right. Ninety-two, we go down there. Like you said, I had about three catches, about 50-something yards.

You were almost like a receiver in that game.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think you had to carry, did you?

No, we do it. We go down there. Like you said, I had about three catches, about 50-something yards.

Almost like a receiver in that game.

Yeah, I mean, we moved to the tight end.

No, we moved to the tight end.

I was actually second stream tight end.

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