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🗓️ 4 December 2020
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0:00.0 | The Spectator magazine combines incisive political analysis with books and arts reviews of unrivaled authority. Absolutely free. Go to spectator.com.uk forward slash voucher. |
0:24.9 | Hello and welcome to Coffeehouse Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. |
0:29.4 | I'm Cindy Yu and I'm joined by James Osive and Katie Balls. |
0:33.0 | So will there or won't there be a deal? |
0:35.3 | Late last night there were whispers that actually a deal |
0:37.5 | may be a bit further away than people thought. Katie, what do we hear last night? So I think |
0:43.0 | there was a growing sense, though, I think some people remain sceptical as I've had to cover |
0:48.2 | Brexit for the past, you know, three years or so, but there was a growing sense that we were edging |
0:52.7 | towards a Brexit deal. You had |
0:55.0 | some quite optimistic reports in the press. I think the daily mail reported that we could have had a |
0:59.4 | deal as soon as yesterday. And I think there was hope that there was movement on fishing and you |
1:05.4 | obviously had the overnight talks. But then last night you began to hear from the UK side that |
1:10.0 | in the afternoon talks are taking a term for the worse and that this was because in their view, the goalposts had been moved by the other side. |
1:18.9 | So not on fish, but talking about things like level playing field. |
1:22.8 | The EU and the UK side started to change what it was talking about, adding in things. This, I think, |
1:29.0 | has not been fully confirmed by the EU side, but I think there is a sense that at the last minute |
1:35.4 | people were trying to do grabs, you know, get more from it and this was causing problems in terms |
1:39.7 | of the talks. I think there's also talk that perhaps part of the reason they're pushing more for things |
1:44.8 | in other places is because the deal on fisheries is not as good as the EU wanted. So if they're going |
1:50.3 | to go along with that, they want more elsewhere. So I think that's the point we're at. I think you're |
1:55.7 | looking at the countries which, you know, the member states, which are the most opposed. We go back to |
2:00.2 | France, which we |
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