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Winning, it's different here. Hey there, next fans. How you doing? It's your boy, Jonathan Macri, with you for another episode of the Next Film School podcast. Always, not only pleased, but genuinely honored to have one of our great

sports reporters, authors, and, you know, historians of the game, historians of not only

the game of basketball and the NBA, but of sports at large, truly is a treat to have on the pod.

Once again, Ian O'Connor. How are you?

Hey, Jonathan. Thanks for the kind words. How are you?

I'm doing great. I'm doing great. We were just chatting a little bit before I hit record about how it's, you know, the Nixer are back to where

they were in the 90s when, you know, you, I guess you said started kind of, you know, covering

this team. What was, how early in your career did you start on the actual like Knicks beat?

I actually was never a beat writer. I was covering the NBA for the Daily News in New York.

It's starting in the early 90s, so I was there for the Riley run, the Van Gundy run.

And, yeah, it just was a great time to be around the Knicks.

And I did think they were going to break through and win 94.

And they were right there with a three two lead in the finals.

You had the O.J. Simpson game in the Garden, which was probably the most surreal experience

I've ever had covering a major sporting event.

And it looked like in the garden.

I was in the garden. And it was amazing to You were in the garden? I was in the garden.

And it was amazing to think, Jonathan, that it's game five of the NBA finals and the

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