Will Karen Read's Multiple Stories Send Her To Prison? Bob Motta Weighs In
The Trial Of Karen Read | Justice For John O'Keefe
Tony Brueski
2.2 • 614 Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2025
⏱️ 13 minutes
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Summary
In this gripping breakdown from Hidden Killers, host Tony Brueski and veteran defense attorney Bob Motta dive deep into one of the most damaging elements in the Karen Read trial: her own ever-changing story. Across months of interviews, voicemails, and secondhand accounts, Karen Read has made conflicting statements about the last time she saw her boyfriend, Boston police officer John O’Keefe. From claiming she saw him go into the house, to saying he was in the general vicinity of the curb, to suggesting she might have clipped him with her car — the versions are endless.
Motta takes a nuanced approach, explaining how defense attorneys have to carefully navigate these inconsistencies. Do they try to explain them away? Or do they lean into them as signs of trauma and confusion from a woman who doesn’t actually remember what happened? Tony, however, takes a more psychological view — arguing that Read's constant shifting might not stem from confusion, but from manipulation and a fear of losing her image.
They debate whether jurors, as emotional and flawed humans, can separate confusing testimony from actual guilt — and whether someone who acts like they have “consciousness of guilt” is more likely to be convicted even if there’s no clear proof of intent. Is Karen Read lying to save herself? Or is she a blackout witness to her own worst night?
This episode sets the tone for the entire discussion around narrative control, narcissistic traits, and what happens when your own mouth becomes your worst enemy in a murder trial.
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| 0:00.0 | This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reid. |
| 0:07.9 | Another week down in the trial of Karen Reid. |
| 0:11.2 | It's only been two weeks, right? |
| 0:13.5 | Is that what we're on? |
| 0:15.3 | That was the first. |
| 0:17.4 | Yeah, that was the third full week. |
| 0:19.8 | Okay. |
| 0:20.1 | So like the first, remember we we i don't think we went on |
| 0:23.2 | monday it started on tuesday yeah that wasn't a full week and so we've had two full weeks in the four |
| 0:28.2 | days yeah it's it's been feeling like months uh just oh my no question dude i know you're covering it |
| 0:36.9 | live uh every day um It's been a lot. |
| 0:40.6 | I'm just going to throw it to you. And since we last talked, how do you think it's going thus far for both sides? |
| 0:47.8 | Let's start for the defense of Karen Reid. For the defense, you know, I think in terms of the last, like, if I'm sticking to this |
| 0:56.2 | week, I feel like, you know, Yuri Buchanek or Buchanick, however you want to pronounce it, is, |
| 1:05.0 | I mean, like, it was clearly the position of Hank Brennan that he was going to be put on the stand to take the bullets for the whole team. |
| 1:18.3 | It seems pretty clear to me that they're not going to be calling Proctor in their case in chief. |
| 1:23.8 | I'd be surprised if they did at this point because, I mean, he's just had Buchanick up there taking all the heat for all the cops. |
| 1:33.7 | And I thought in terms of like an evaluation, I think that Jackson's been very efficient. |
| 1:41.3 | I think he's been even keeled. |
| 1:43.9 | He hasn't been, you know, trying to be overly dramatic, you know, because there's a lot of points to be scored for the defense with regards to the investigation, man. I mean, no matter what you think about the case overall, I mean, if you're looking at it honestly and you're walking away from the trial thinking |
| 2:02.3 | that that was a good police investigation, you're fooling yourself because it just wasn't. |
| 2:07.3 | You know, it's like got enough cop friends and cop colleagues and the YouTube's. |
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