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Will Kaback interviews lead author Simon Bazelon about his Deciding to Win report and where politics are headed.

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Isaac Saul

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4.7817 Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Senior Editor Will Kaback interviews Simon Bazelon about the state of our current politics and where it is headed, the kinds of issues that will resonate most with voters, and the kind of policy platforms that are going to be winning for political candidates moving forward. For more information on the Deciding to Win report that Simon Bazelon was the lead author on go to https://decidingtowin.org/


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0:00.0

From executive producer Isaac Saul, this is Tangle.

0:08.4

Good morning, good afternoon and good evening. And welcome to the Tangle podcast, a place where you get views from across the political spectrum, some independent thinking, and a little bit of our take. I am senior editor Will Kayback.

0:33.8

Today, we're going to be diving into a report that has proved quite divisive on both the right and the left.

0:43.4

You may have heard about it. It's called The Deciding to Win Report, published a little over a month ago,

0:49.6

and it was produced by this group called Welcome, which is a centrist political advocacy group.

0:55.8

They mainly work with left-of-center candidates, but they call themselves a place that's trying to build a home for people on the center left and the center right.

1:04.8

And what this report was was a diagnosis of why Democrats lost in 2024 and what they need to do in order to get back on track for future elections.

1:16.8

So I know that this is a topic that we've written a lot about Entangle.

1:21.3

You've probably read a lot about it in other outlets.

1:23.7

And as we move into 26, there may be a question in your mind, which is totally understandable.

1:29.6

Why are we still looking back at the 2024 election? Well, the thing about this report is it's not

1:34.5

really about 2024. It's really a diagnosis of in the author's minds where Democrats have gone

1:41.0

wrong over the past decade plus, the way that they have highlighted

1:45.1

certain issues over others, the way that they've transitioned their policy priorities,

1:49.6

the kinds of candidates that they've elevated, et cetera. So it is an analysis with quite a lot

1:55.1

of relevance for the future of the party going forward and how they're going to make decisions

2:00.2

about the 2026 midterms and the 28 presidential election.

2:04.5

Now also, if you are a listener who doesn't really care about the future of the Democratic Party

2:10.1

perhaps or where they may or may not have gone wrong, also totally understandable.

2:14.6

But again, this conversation is broadly about the state of our politics

2:19.1

in this moment and where it's headed. The kinds of issues that are going to resonate with voters

2:24.0

be popular with the most voters and the kinds of policy platforms that the authors think are

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