It's just so clear now that certainly Westminster political media classes are entirely in Farage's orbit now.

I mean, that is, he is the story. Reform is the story.

And I think the progressive class thought it was all going their way, that they weren't going to be the ones that were going to be left behind because everything was going to get more equal, more diverse, more trans, more progressive.

And it's not turning out like that.

Essex, given half the chance, could save the country.

Hello, and welcome to the Spike Podcast.

I'm Fraser Myers, joined, as ever, with Spike's editor, Tom Slater, here in the studio.

Hello.

And joining us down the line, we're delighted to have the brilliant, legendary Gareth Roberts.

Welcome, Gareth. Hi. Hi, both.

Gareth is a prolific writer. He's written loads of brilliant stuff for us.

He's also worked on Doctor Who, I think back when it was good, probably.

Yes, yeah, I'm time ago.

But we've got loads to discuss today.

We'll be talking about Nigel Farage's deportation plan,

the twilight of the sensible centrist,

and whether Essex man can save Britain.

So Nigel Farage laid out his plans for mass deportations this week. He's kind of throwing down the gauntlet on this issue, particularly to Kier Stama.

He said that a reform government would leave the ECHR, suspend the refugee convention with

the aim of deporting 600,000 people. Tom, what did you

make of it? Clearly it was aimed at the current government and their inability to get a grip on

this issue. Now, I think it was probably the keenest example yet of how reform are setting the

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