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🗓️ 23 September 2020
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Eric Appel is a Professor of Materials Science & Engineering at Stanford University. His lab has designed an improved delivery system for fire retardant to keep fires from starting across hotspots and known ignition areas.
Here are a few additional resources related to this episode:
Wildfire prevention through prophylactic treatment of high-risk landscapes using viscoelastic retardant fluids, PNAS (Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America)
Stanford researchers have developed a gel-like fluid to prevent wildfires, Stanford News
Developing Community Wildfire Protection Plans, US Forest Service
Mitigate Wildfire Risk, US Forest Service
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0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
0:15.4 | This is Solvable. I'm Jacob Weisberg. |
0:21.5 | Many, many millions of gallons of retardants are used every year, right? |
0:24.9 | The iconic red stuff you see being dropped from planes. |
0:28.2 | In recent weeks, the Pacific Coast has faced devastating wildfires. |
0:33.4 | Because of climate change, uncontrolled fires have become increasingly frequent and increasingly destructive around the world, |
0:40.3 | from Australia to Brazil to Oregon and California. |
0:43.3 | But before they spread out of control, these fires often start in predictable places. |
0:50.3 | I mean, we found that 80% plus of the fires in California over the last 10 years have started |
0:57.0 | routinely in the same sorts of hotspots. |
1:00.0 | The familiar fire prevention strategies focus on giving fires less fuel by clearing flammable |
1:06.0 | materials from around the home, keeping gutters and drains clear, and cutting down dead and dying trees. |
1:12.1 | But as the planet grows hotter and fire seasons keep getting longer, we might be ready for a |
1:17.7 | higher tech approach, something like jello? |
1:21.6 | For the layperson, it looks and feels, I don't know, it's not as stiff as jello. |
1:33.3 | Eric Apple is a professor of material science and engineering at Stanford University. He and his team have designed a new, long-lasting fire retardant with a gel-like texture. |
1:39.3 | It's sprayed over known hotspots before fire start. |
1:43.3 | I believe that with the right technology in hand, this problem is solvable. |
1:49.0 | I asked Apple why he's so passionate about this idea. |
1:52.8 | He started by describing the sky outside his window. |
1:56.4 | Right now, if I look out my window, I see a very brown sky. |
2:00.4 | It looks like it's twilight, but, you know, |
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