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Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

Wicked Words - Dr. Katherine Ramsland: BTK Killer Dennis Rader

Wicked Words - A True Crime Talk Show with Kate Winkler Dawson

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True Crime

4.8 • 7.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 May 2021

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Forensic psychologist Dr. Katherine Ramsland spent years interviewing BTK Killer Dennis Rader in prison, digging into the psyche of a psychopath and a serial killer. Find out what he taught her in this fascinating episode. Written, researched, and hosted by Kate Winkler Dawson/producer Alexis Amorosi/sound designer Andrew Eapen/composer Curtis Heath/web designer Ilsa Brink/additional research Ella Middleton Subscribe to my newsletter: tenfoldmorewicked.com Buy my books: katewinklerdawson.com If you have suggestions for historical crimes that could use some attention, email me: [email protected] Follow me on social: @tenfoldmore (Twitter) / @tenfoldmorewicked (Facebook and Instagram) 2021 All Rights Reserved Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is

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this is exactly right.

0:07.0

This story contains adult content and language,

0:10.0

along with references to sexual assault.

0:12.0

Listener discretion is advised.

0:14.4

You can't see this, but I'll describe it.

0:20.6

This is one that a psychopath named Dennis Rader came up with he

0:25.5

calls this cubie. And so in my hand I have a cube and on each side there is a

0:32.4

label like church leader employee family man serial

0:37.5

killer and that's what psychopaths take advantage of they have no roots in any of these. All of them are part of their

0:46.2

identity. They can pivot quickly to whichever one works for them in any given

0:50.6

situation.

0:51.6

I'm Kate Winkler Dawson, a non-fiction author and journalism professor in Austin, Texas.

0:58.0

I'm also the host of the Historical True Crime Podcast, Tenfold War Wicked on Exactly Right.

1:03.2

I've traveled around the world interviewing people for the show.

1:06.2

I've interviewed some people in person and some from my home studio over Zoom, and they are

1:11.1

all excellent writers.

1:12.8

They've had so many great true crime stories and now we want to tell you those stories

1:17.7

with details that have never been published.

1:20.2

Tenfold More Wicked Presents, Wicked Words, is about the choices that writers make, good and bad.

1:26.0

It's a deep dive into the stories, behind the stories.

1:32.0

I'm Catherine Ramsland. I'm a professor of forensic psychology and the author of

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