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Pop Culture Happy Hour

Wicked: For Good And What’s Making Us Happy

Pop Culture Happy Hour

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4.511.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Wicked was a smash hit that earned Oscar nominations for Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo–but that was only the first half of the story. Wicked: For Good has more songs, more magic, more extravagant production design, and more belting. But can it match the impact and live up to the hype of the first film?

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0:00.0

Is it easier for us to find the positives in something we considered bad or to narrow down the positives of something we loved?

0:07.8

I'm Glenn Weldon on the latest pop culture happy hour plus episode, Aish and I discuss the challenges of criticism.

0:14.0

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0:27.2

Last year's film adaptation of the musical Wicked, a smash hit that earned 10 Oscar

0:33.1

nominations, was only the first half of the story. Now it's time for the second half with more songs,

0:39.4

more magic, more extravagant production design, and more belting.

0:44.0

Wicked for Good is every bit as splashy as the first installment, but can it match the impact

0:50.0

of its predecessor and live up to the hype? I'm Aisha Harris. And I'm Linda Holmes.

0:54.9

And today we're talking about Wicked for Good on Pop Culture Happy Hour from NPR.

1:00.4

Joining us today is Waylon Wong.

1:02.7

She's the co-host of NPR's Daily Economics Podcast, The Indicator from Planet Money.

1:08.4

Hello, Waylon.

1:09.5

Hi, everyone.

1:10.7

Also with us is journalist and host of the

1:12.8

podcast seated Trevelle Anderson. Welcome back, Trevelle. Hello, hello, hello. Hello. So, Wicked for

1:22.8

good picks up the story, which is, as you probably know, a Wizard of Oz prequel, with Elphaba, played by

1:29.2

Cynthia Arrivo, having fled Oz to prepare to fight the wizard and Madame Morrible, who have

1:35.5

cemented their power over Oz. Galinda, on the other hand, played by Ariana Grande, is Living

1:41.1

It Up, now known as Glinda, the Good, floating through life on the arm of Fierro,

1:46.4

played by newly minted sexiest man alive, Jonathan Bailey.

1:50.7

Elphaba now branded The Wicked Witch by those who want everyone to distrust her

1:55.5

is also edging closer and closer to confrontation with a certain young girl from Kansas

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