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I'm your host, Mack Pritchard.

I'm also the founder of Max List.

It's a job board in the Pacific Northwest that helps you find a fulfilling career.

Every Wednesday, I talk to a different expert about the tools you need to get the work you want.

You have a career goal. But you know, you don't have the necessary experiences and skills to get there right now.

A technique called reverse mapping, however, can help you figure out what to do next.

Susan Towers is here to talk about why you need to think about your career backwards.

She's the founder of Sandy Mount Search. Her company offers search, recruiting, and career services for executives. Susan

joins us from Portland, Oregon. Well, Susan, here's where I want to start. Let's talk about

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