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The Chase Jarvis LIVE Show

Why We Need to Talk About Failure with Amy Edmondson

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Chase Jarvis

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4.8641 Ratings

🗓️ 6 September 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Amy Edmondson, Novartis Professor of Leadership and Management at Harvard Business School, shares the importance of failing well and the challenges of admitting failure. She emphasizes the value of vulnerability and authenticity in building relationships and encourages taking smart risks. Edmondson also discusses the science behind failing and how self-awareness practices can help manage emotions and self-talk.

Amy Edmondson is a renowned researcher on psychological safety and has been named the #1 Management Thinker in the world by Thinkers50 in 2021. Her TED Talk “How to Turn a Group of Strangers into a Team” has been viewed over three million times.

Some highlights we explore:

  • The three archetypes of failure: basic, complex, and intelligent
  • The importance of embracing failures as discoveries and learning from them
  • Reframing failure as a discovery
  • The mindset needed to keep going despite failures
  • How vulnerability and authenticity can build better relationships
  • Taking smart risks and the risks of doing nothing

Enjoy!

Transcript

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0:00.0

I think perhaps the most important factor is recognizing that you can't avoid risk.

0:05.8

You can take risks or you cannot take risks, in which case you're taking the risk of

0:12.4

obsolescence, stagnation, loneliness, adventure-free life.

0:17.6

So it's really a matter of choosing which risk you want to take. Do you want to take

0:21.8

the one where you stretch and try something that might not work out well, might end in failure,

0:28.4

or do you want to take the risk of doing nothing and letting the world sort of pass you by?

0:34.4

Hey there. What's up? It's Chase. Welcome to another episode of the show.

0:38.3

We used to think about failure as the opposite of success, right?

0:43.3

And yet today we are torn between two failure cultures, one that says to avoid failure

0:52.3

at all costs and the other that says fail fast,

0:56.5

fail often, you know, these are just experiments, how can we get through them as quick as possible?

1:01.5

But the trouble with those two extremes is that both of those approaches lack a bunch of subtlety.

1:08.2

They lack distinctions that help us separate good from bad. And that,

1:13.4

understanding the right kind of failure and the wrong kind of failure is the topic of today's

1:18.6

episode, where my guest is Amy Edmondson. She is the Novartis Professor of Leadership

1:24.4

and Management at the Harvard Business School, renowned for research

1:28.2

on psychological safety for over 20 years. She's got all kinds of award-winning work.

1:35.6

She's appeared in the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Financial Times. She's got a huge

1:40.6

TED Talk, How to Turn a Group of Str strangers into a team. And this particular episode today,

1:47.4

we talk about the concept of the right kind of wrong, the science of failing well. That is the title

1:55.3

and subtitle of her new book. Cannot wait for you to enjoy today's episode revolutionizing how we ought to think about failing well.

2:04.3

I'm going to get out of your way and let you enjoy the show.

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