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The Good Fight

Why We Need a Sane Republican Party

The Good Fight

Yascha Mounk

News

4.7963 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2021

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Ambassador Eric Edelman was Under Secretary of Defense for Policy in the George W. Bush administration and served as the U.S. ambassador to Turkey and Finland. A strident critic of former President Donald Trump, he is among the foremost voices of the “Never Trump” movement. In a wide-ranging conversation, Ambassador Edelman and Yascha Mounk discuss the trajectory of the Republican party and Donald Trump’s political future, Turkey’s illiberal slide under President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, and the fragility of democratic norms worldwide. This transcript has been condensed and lightly edited for clarity. Please do listen and spread the word about The Good Fight. If you have not yet signed up for our podcast, please do so now by following this link on your phone. Email: podcast@persuasion.community  Website: http://www.persuasion.community Podcast production by John T. Williams, and Brendan Ruberry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Connect with us! Spotify | Apple | Google Twitter: @Yascha_Mounk & @joinpersuasion Youtube: Yascha Mounk LinkedIn: Persuasion Community Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

So, Carl, what big Hollywood star did you get to promote our two-for-one cinema tickets offer?

0:04.6

I got Mr. Hollywood himself.

0:06.6

Nice to meet you.

0:07.5

Carl, that's Paul Hollywood, The Baker.

0:10.1

So Mr. Hollywood's, what roles have you done before?

0:13.0

I quite like a seeded bath, and I'm partial to a briosh.

0:16.0

Sergei, send them back to LA.

0:18.0

I'm from the whirral.

0:19.0

Just make it simple!

0:21.0

With two for one cinema tickets every Tuesday or Wednesday when you take out

0:23.9

a qualifying product so compare the market.

0:26.6

One membership a year participating cinema is two standard tickets only cheapest free,

0:29.4

teas and sees apply. Bye. And now the good fight with Yasha Monk.

0:55.0

My name is Karin Kanezan Antouia,

1:00.0

and I'm the Africa Advocacy Director for the Africa Division of Human Rights Watch.

1:05.0

I wrote this article for persuasion, Africa's fallen stars,

1:10.0

and I think the piece was inspired by two things. I think the first one is my personal experience,

1:16.0

the fact that I've worked in six African countries, Burundi, South Africa, Sierra Leone,

1:21.6

Uganda, Kenya, Rwanda, and I've lived in four.

1:25.0

And the second one is, I think it's somehow inspired by a lecture that former President Obama gave in 2009 in Accra, Ghana.

1:37.0

When he said the 21st century will be shaped by what happens not just in Rome or Moscow or Washington, but also by what happens in Accra as well.

1:47.6

Obviously talking about Ghana but referring to Africa as a whole.

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