I was a traditional swing state, Obama wanted.

And then Iowa went for Trump by nine points in 2016

and eight points in 2020.

Yeah, and then I also have to say, you know,

we're talking about, when you're talking about Iowa,

you're talking about farmland.

You know, you're talking about people

that were absolutely hurt with these tariffs.

And that's a place where I would think

would be the first place to say,

we're done with this with Donald Trump.

But you're right.

I mean, it's one of those shocking things

when you look at the end of the election

and you go, wow, how did he pull it off there?

People are concerned that Iowa may not be a swing state anymore,

which would be very, very painful.

And there are some folks in the Democratic Party

who are looking at it and saying,

well, you know, this isn't really fertile ground for us anymore.

If you're in a place that's going red,

like you're losing it in front of your very eyes,

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