Why Trans Women Transfix Celebs Like Carlos Santana
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🗓️ 26 August 2023
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Summary
On this week’s episode of The Waves, why can’t celebrities and sports organizations leave trans people alone? On the heels of the International Chess Federation excluding trans women from competing, and some terrible statements from singer Ne-Yo (remember Ne-Yo?) Waves host Scaachi Koul wants to know why everyone is so obsessed with trans people. She talks with cartoonist and author of the graphic novel, Boys Weekend, Mattie Lubchansky about why celebrities can’t help but get involved, why trans women continue to take the brunt of these types of attacks, and what hope there is for the future of trans rights.
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| 0:00.0 | What's up guys, I am Ashley Gavin, and I am your father. |
| 0:03.1 | I'm Elena Joy, I am Mommy, and I'm Mackin from your hot teenage brother. |
| 0:08.4 | Baby, Mack is baby. |
| 0:09.7 | We are your chosen family, because you don't have a gay family, and you need a gay family. |
| 0:14.3 | Every week, we bring a topic to the family dinner table from gender dysphoria, |
| 0:17.9 | to monogamy, to how to figure out if someone is into you. |
| 0:20.5 | Listen to Chosen Family every Wednesday on your favorite podcast app, |
| 0:24.0 | or watch full episodes on YouTube to get the full family experience. |
| 0:27.7 | Chosen Family is a part of the Forever Dog podcast network. |
| 0:31.2 | Today's episode talks a lot about anti-trans legislation, |
| 0:34.2 | anti-transiter discrimination, and generally people being in nuisance |
| 0:37.2 | about trans people living their lives. Listen with care. |
| 0:46.4 | Welcome to the Waves, Slates podcast about the terror of gender, feminism, and today, |
| 0:52.0 | letting trans kids live a life of peace without having to think about NEO's hats. |
| 0:57.2 | Every week, we talk about what fresh hell is being unleashed on the girls and the gays, |
| 1:01.2 | the days and dems, and anyone else similarly committed to a society free of cis male dominance. |
| 1:07.4 | I'm your host, Sachi Cole, and I just moved in down the block. |
| 1:10.8 | You're cute. My parents are going away for the weekend, and I'm throwing a party. |
| 1:14.8 | Do you want to come? |
| 1:17.0 | Today, we have to talk about chess, and I'm as surprised as you are. |
| 1:21.6 | I think we have maybe over-indexed on caring about chess. |
| 1:25.3 | We got tricked by Netflix as the Queen's Gambit, and maybe that wonder can Bobby Fisher? |
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