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🗓️ 8 July 2025
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Thomas More was one of the most famous—and notorious—figures in English history. Born into the era of the Wars of the Roses, educated during the European Renaissance, rising to become Chancellor of England, and ultimately destroyed by Henry VIII, he hunted Protestants for heresy and had them burnt at the stake in the final years of Catholic England, but after the English Reformation, he was executed himself when he refused to support Henry VIII as the Supreme Head of the English Church.
He also achieved literary immortality for his book Utopia, which describes an ideal, imaginary island society with communal property, religious tolerance, and social harmony, critiquing the political and social issues of 16th-century Europe.
Was he a saintly scholar and an inspiration for statesmen and intellectuals even today? The Catholic Church would say ‘yes’, as they canonized him and made him the patron saint of statesmen. Or was he the cruel zealot who only wanted to burn Protestants alive and hold back England’s progress?
Today’s guest is Joanne Paul, author of Thomas More: A Life. We look at a man who, more than four hundred years after his execution, remains one of the most brilliant minds of the Renaissance. He also shows us the limits of passive resistance and how somebody can achieve posthumous fame but also fail to affect the events of his day.
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0:00.0 | Scott here with another episode of the History and Plug podcast. |
0:08.1 | Thomas Moore was one of the most famous and notorious figures in English history, |
0:11.6 | born into the era of the Wars of the Roses, educated during the European Renaissance, |
0:15.7 | rising to become Chancellor of England and ultimately destroyed by Henry VIII. |
0:19.9 | He hunted Protestants for heresy and |
0:21.7 | had them burnt at the stake in the final years of Catholic England, but after the English |
0:25.6 | Reformation was executed himself when he refused to support Henry as a supreme head of the |
0:29.9 | English church. He also achieved literary immortality for his book Utopia, which describes an ideal |
0:35.2 | imaginary island society with communal property, religious |
0:38.3 | tolerance, and social harmony, critiquing the political and social issues of 16th Central Europe. |
0:43.4 | Was he a saintly scholar and an inspiration for statesmen and intellectuals today? |
0:47.6 | The Catholic Church would say yes, as they canonized him and made him the patron saint of statesmen, |
0:52.2 | or was he a cruel zealot who only wanted to burn Protestants alive and hold back England's progress? Today's guest is Joanne Paul, author |
0:59.4 | of Thomas Moore Alive. We look at a man who, more than 400 years after his execution, |
1:04.3 | remains one of the most brilliant minds of the Renaissance. He also shows us the limits of passive |
1:08.2 | resistance and how somebody can achieve posthumous fame, |
1:11.1 | but also fail to affect the events of his day. |
1:13.8 | Hope we enjoy this discussion. |
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