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The Find Out Podcast

Why the Rule of Law Still Matters (with Katie Phang)

The Find Out Podcast

Find Out Podcast

News, Democrats, Liberal, Masculinity, News Commentary, Government, Politics, Democrat, Progressive

51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 May 2025

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Legal expert (and former MSNBC host) Katie Phang joins us to break down Trump’s escalating attacks on the rule of law and what they mean for the future of American democracy. We dig into who can actually hold his administration accountable for defying court orders, why executive orders aren’t law, and what tools Democrats still have to push back. Katie brings her sharp, no-BS insights to this chaotic and dangerous moment in American government.Follow us on Substack at findoutpodcast.substack.com   Get Find Out Merch at findoutpodcast.com.

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody, Tim Fullerton here. Welcome back to the Find Out podcast. This is, I think, episode 12 or 13. Today's guest is a, we're very excited to have. I have been a fan for a very long time. And we've done a few IMs or DMs over Instagram, but never actually gotten to talk before. So we want to welcome Katie Fang to the show. Katie was the former host of the Katie

0:23.3

Fang show on MSNBC. And she's also just started her own YouTube channel in connection with

0:29.9

the Midas group. And I think everybody also knows that she is an attorney as well. And so Katie,

0:36.2

welcome to the Find Out podcast.

0:38.2

It's great to have you.

0:39.1

I mean, what a great name for a podcast.

0:41.5

I'm like living in the Find Out space.

0:45.3

And now that I've left mainstream, I can say the fuck around part as well.

0:51.2

So apologies to your viewers and your listeners that I use profanity.

0:55.7

But that is the unleashed part of Katie Fang is some profanity.

0:58.9

I love it. I love it. And that is not the first deaf bomb that's been thrown on the show by far.

1:04.4

That is precisely what they're here for, actually.

1:07.4

Luke, the big reason that people watch Luke is for him shouting, get fucked as loud as he can.

1:15.1

And I'm in great company then.

1:16.8

He is our 21-year-old college student that joins us.

1:21.9

So he makes me feel very old, but also like always impressed with what he has to say us because i wouldn't have

1:28.6

been able to do it at that age so surprised that he's out of bed to be able to join you guys

1:32.5

yeah well he and for our for our listener slash viewers both he and rich uh were here in new york

1:39.4

and we actually did two tapings so you guys will see those uh one next week and probably one the week

1:43.4

after um and they're both flying back home

1:45.8

so you're just stuck with the three

1:48.1

oldest oh nope

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