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Why Sustainable Seafood Is A Data Problem

Short Wave

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πŸ—“οΈ 20 September 2023

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

The last several decades have taken a toll on the oceans: Some fish populations are collapsing, plastic is an increasing problem and climate change is leading to coral bleaching β€” as well as a host of other problems. But marine biologist and World Economic Forum programme lead Alfredo Giron says there's room to hope for the seas. He works to create systems that governments and the fishing industry can use to make sure fishing is legal and sustainable so oceans thrive for years to come. In this encore episode, he talks to host Aaron Scott about his work and how managing the ocean is a lot about managing people.

We spoke to Alfredo Giron about his research and thoughts, the episode is not meant to reflect the World Economic Forum's positions.

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Do you remember as a kid what you wanted to be when you grew up?

0:23.3

Maybe an astronaut soccer star veterinarian the president well Alfredo Herron. He remembers

0:31.4

When I was seven in second grade

0:34.8

My mom got for me a book about marine mammals and it was about seals, sea lions, and wolf roses

0:41.0

And I just wasn't in love with

0:44.0

I'm going to be a marine biologist

0:46.2

But as he grew up in Mexico City, he grew out of that childhood dream. I started thinking

0:51.4

No, maybe engineering in something and eventually I settled down for engineering by bioengineering

0:57.5

I was lucky enough to get into a lab where they allowed me to do all sorts of techniques that bioengineering professionals will do

1:08.3

And it was not my thing

1:10.9

But the college admissions clock was ticking and he needed to decide where to apply and suddenly

1:17.2

This ray of light illuminated that old book in the bookshelf. I opened it

1:23.2

And I was like, you know what? I wanted to be a marine biologist and I remember I loved it

1:28.8

And so I looked up online

1:31.4

Where can I study these in Mexico and when is the deadline to do it and the deadline was like one week away?

1:40.8

So I just

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Afredo went on to get a PhD at UC San Diego Scripps Institution of Oceanography

1:48.9

Since then he's focused on using data in science to make fishing more sustainable

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