We're partnering up with the AINRAN Institute this week and joining me in studio are two

of their top intellectuals, Tara Smith and Ankar Gatae, welcome to the Ruben Report.

We're going to be talking about selfishness and the virtue of selfishness.

How could selfishness possibly be virtuous?

I thought selfishness was evil.

How could it not be virtuous?

I love talking about selfishness.

I found the two most selfishness.

I try and it's going pretty well.

Part of what I mean by that is, in a sense, it works for me.

If you want people to be happy, I'll give you one quick capsule just to get us going.

If you care about people being happy, genuinely having fulfilling lives, feeling good about

their lives, but with good reason to feel good about their lives, then I think people

need to think carefully about what's in my best interest.

And that's largely what selfishness is all about.

Doing what's really going to be good for you, best for you, so that you can have the

best life that you can have.

I mean, I can go on and on.

That's why we're here.

You may have to interrupt sometimes.

All right.

So when AINRAN first was writing about this, it was pretty radical to say selfishness was

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