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Factually! with Adam Conover

Why Search Engines Aren’t Unbiased with Safiya Noble

Factually! with Adam Conover

Headgum

Comedy

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2020

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

UCLA Professor Safiya Noble joins Adam this week to discuss how racism is expressed through supposedly neutral algorithms, the real-life “Minority Report” technology that’s being used today in our cities, and why we all need to stop implicitly trusting technology just because it uses a lot of math. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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0:00.0

This is a HeadGum Podcast. I don't know what to think

0:13.0

I don't know what to say

0:16.0

you're the dance of my

0:18.0

yeah that's all right

0:21.0

and don't get okay

0:22.0

I don't care. Hey, I don't know anything.

0:28.0

Hey, everybody. Hey everybody, welcome to Factually. I'm Adam Conover,

0:31.0

and, you know, we all trust technology far too much. We know that humans are

0:36.8

fallible screwed up animals but somehow we've all come to believe that once something's

0:41.1

done with an algorithm or a satellite or if math is

0:44.4

involved then that means it must be accurate, neutral, and unquestionable. You know we

0:50.0

might not know what machine learning actually is, but hey it's got machine right there in the name, right?

0:56.3

So that means it must work.

0:58.2

And blockchain, I don't even know what it is, but that's not going to stop me from shoving all my money into it. We've all

1:04.4

come to believe that the mere presence of complex math assures accuracy and

1:09.6

that technology has an authority that we should respect if not obey. But the truth is that technology,

1:16.7

the end of the day, isn't just made by fallible humans, it's also used by fallible humans,

1:22.1

us, and the mistake, the foul, if you will. so used by fallible humans, us.

1:22.9

And the mistake, the foul, if you will,

1:25.2

that we're all making is that we trust technology far too much.

1:29.5

Take fitness trackers, like your Fitbit.

1:32.0

Fitbit's use sensors to calculate the distance you travel,

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