For the New Statesman.

Hi, I'm Anouche.

I'm India.

And on today's episode of the New Statesman podcast,

we discuss the politics of COP.

COP 27 begins today in Egypt, where global leaders are meeting to work on the world's fight against climate change.

And the UN has said progress on staffing emissions has been woefully inadequate since COP 26.

If countries follow their current policies, it's been found by experts, then the planet's temperature is expected to rise by as much as 2.8 degrees this century,

when the agreed limit is that rise should be no higher than 1.5 degrees.

And listeners can actually track each different country's carbon emissions and to what extent they're meeting their pledges on our excellent data journalist Nick Ferris' emissions tracker on the New Statesman website.

So do go and have a look at that.

But today I'm delighted to be joined by our environment correspondent, India Bork, to talk about the climate summit and Britain's place.

Thanks so much for joining us, India.

Thanks for having me, Anish.

And there's a lot of politics to get our teeth into regarding this year's COP, but we'll come on to that further on in our conversation.

Let's talk about the substance of it first.

How different is this year's COP to the one that was in Glasgow last year, which I feel was really in the sort of media spotlight because it was obviously held in the UK?

It's held in the UK, it's like it was so great to have kind of the world media attention on climate once this year does feel the mood board is totally different.

And part of that is due to the fact that this is probably, it was being talked as one of the most challenging contexts in the 27 years that the cops have been held.

And a large part of that is obviously due to the war in Ukraine, which has begun since last November's COP.

And it puts a huge, combined with the arse of the pandemic, huge effect on so many economies around the world, as well as geopolitical tensions between Russia, obviously China and the West that this is hugely challenging to be talking about the even much greater challenge of climate change, but which in some ways doesn't feel as pressing to some politicians as the state of their economies.

Because that part of the different mood shift, and then the other part is slightly more technical, which is that until Glasgow last year, all the nations were working on finalising the rules by which the Paris agreement would be kind of a hit to.

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