So for more on how Republicans, even those who were staunchly opposed to this bill have since come

around, as well as how voters see it, we are joined again by Sarah Longwell. She's a Republican

strategist and publisher of the bulwark. Sarah, so nice to have you back on the program. Help us

understand this. How did some of these GOP members who were once

committed diehard nose suddenly get to yes? It's actually very simple. Donald Trump demanded

it and they all fell in line. And it is actually a little bit stunning because they were

such firm nose when it came to the Senate version of this bill.

And for some of the fiscal hawks, they were nose because it added somewhere between $4.1 trillion and $6 trillion to the debt.

And then for the moderates, for some of those legislators, there was a real

concern about the cuts to Medicaid. And so a lot of those legislators had said, absolutely not.

We will not vote for this bill. And then Trump and J.D. Vance simply went to work on them,

calling them and cajoling them and

browbeating them. And there was a lot of peer pressure. And I think it's really become one of the

pieces of orthodoxy now in the Republican Party. It even transcends the commitment to tax cuts.

Is the commitment to doing whatever Donald Trump says you've got to do.

You recently wrote about Senator Lisa Murkowski, Republican from Alaska, saying she was

one of those knows.

She then fought for certain things to be changed that would help Alaska.

And then she got to yes.

You wrote that her actions seem to epitomize this political moment that we are in right now.

How so?

Well, there's a lot of forces that Donald Trump has unleashed on the country.

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