Let me just ask one question. Is cause and effect real outside of the headset?

I think inside the headset, no. So we have a useful fiction inside the headset. You don't think

there's cause and effect? Right. Well, we have the appearance of cause and effect. Right? So if I

hit the the cue ball and hits the eight ball into the corner pocket, it looks like the cue ball

caused the eight ball to creane into the corner pocket. Yes. And that all works, but it's a

fiction of causality. In the old video game of pa you have these little paddles and these ball

and you hit and it looks like the paddle is causing the ball and the fiction of causality is good

enough that you can play a game. You can actually figure out how to put maybe a little spin out

and so forth or in you know more more advanced games like you know virtual reality or games or

grand theft auto. You have a nice fiction of causality. I turned the wheel to the left. My car

goes to the left turn the wheel to the right, but it's all a fiction. The wheel has no causal powers.

The gas pedal has no causal powers, but it's a useful fiction. Evolution gave us a useful

feature. I don't know that that's true. So think about a system is created. Let's take the analogy

of grand theft auto. So a system is created such that it awaits input from your your control pad,

whatever that control pad may be. Now admittedly my control pad, I press it. An electrical

signal is sent to something that turns on or off or opens or closes or whatever and then a whole

cascade of things happens. But it is I mean you could even trace back the causality to I ate

something that gave me the ability to create ATP which gave me the ability to generate electricity

which gave me the ability to fire a muscle which gave me the ability to press a button which

triggered this electrical chain reaction that caused something to happen on the screen. But it

there is a chain of causality in the headset. There is a chain of causality in the headset.

Like even though it is the perception is that you know I'm turning and the act of actually just

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