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The WallBuilders Show

Why Race-Based Policies Breed Division And Undercut Civil Rights

The WallBuilders Show

Tim Barton, David Barton & Rick Green

Wallbuilders Show, Education, Constitutional, Church, Christianity, History, Conservative, America, Family, Christian, Biblical, Religion & Spirituality, Wallbuilders.show, Government, News, Politics

4.8 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 December 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

A light holiday intro gives way to a sharp, evidence‑driven conversation with Dr. Carol Swain about a problem many didn’t want to see coming: how identity politics and race‑based preferences helped create the space for a “new white nationalism.” Not the hooded caricature of the past, but an online‑networked movement animated by grievance and the perception of unequal rules. Carol walks us through the policy arc—from the promise of the 1964 Civil Rights Act to the executive‑order birth of affi...

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Wall Builder Show. This is the intersection of faith and culture. We look at all the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective. I'm Rick Green. I'm here with David Barton and Tim Barton. And you can learn more about all of us at the website, wallbuilders.com and

0:21.4

wallbuilders.show. Dot show for the radio program. Dot com for all those Christmas needs that

0:26.9

you still have. We're down to, what do we got guys? We're less like a week, a little more than a

0:32.1

week before Christmas. And David Barton has only mentioned Christmas music once, Tim, once this year so far.

0:39.4

Is that it?

0:39.9

I mean, this is weird.

0:41.0

Well, if we include the whole year, they're definitely with some this summer.

0:44.6

But this winter has not been very often.

0:47.6

That's a fact.

0:48.5

Yeah.

0:48.9

I'm trying to see how sensitive you are, you guys are, to my feelings in this thing. And clearly, there's no sensitivity.

0:56.9

Nobody's stood up for me. Nobody's tried to say, hey, let's play some Christmas music for you.

1:02.3

It's all about you guys. It's not about me. I get it. Well, I don't know which university you've

1:08.0

been attending recently to get your degree in democratic drama.

1:12.5

But on the conservative side, we believe you stand up for yourself and you lead and you go

1:18.7

forward. So, you know, the Bible says you have not because you ask not. And I don't know that Rick

1:22.8

and I have told you no. I think we're just giving you the opportunity. Yeah, he almost sounded like he thought

1:30.5

Wall Builders Radio would somehow be some kind of safe space or something. I don't know. That was

1:35.3

weird. It was just weird. It's like, no, seriously, it is getting close to Christmas, but I do want to

1:42.4

encourage people to go to the website, probably getting out of

1:44.2

the wire, get something shipped out at time. But even if it comes after Christmas, folks,

1:47.5

there's some good stuff there. And I'm thinking about it for the 250. It's just all through

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