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🗓️ 10 May 2025
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Tom talks with Andrew Mayne about why Fidji Simo would leave INstacrt to take a product role at OpenAI and how that might change how you think about OpenAI.
Starring Tom Merritt and Andrew Mayne.
Andrew Mayne founder of AI deployment firm Interdimensional.
https://attentionmechanismpodcast.com/
https://openai.com/index/leadership-expansion-with-fidji-simo/
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0:00.0 | Hello, everybody, and welcome to another weekend edition of The Daily Tech News show. |
0:09.1 | This might become a habit. |
0:10.8 | We'll see. |
0:11.7 | I'm Tom Merritt. |
0:12.6 | And this week, I wanted to spend a little extra time talking to Andrew Main, who is the founder of AI deployment firm Interdimensional, but also |
0:24.5 | a former OpenAI employee. He is doing some contracting work with OpenAI, so you should know that |
0:30.6 | before we hear him talk about it. But I wanted to get from him an explanation of why OpenAI would want to hire Instacart's CEO, Fiji Simo, to become the CEO of applications. |
0:48.8 | And why would Fiji Simo want to leave Instacart? |
0:52.7 | Why would Simo, while she's getting a CEO title, why would she not |
0:57.3 | want to be the CEO the way she is at Instacart? She is a board member at OpenAI. So I called up |
1:03.2 | Andrew to talk to him and gratefully, he is joining us to talk about OpenAI's coming CEO of product. |
1:13.5 | Andrew Main, thanks for joining me, man. |
1:15.5 | Hey, Tom. Good to see you. |
1:17.1 | Yeah. |
1:18.2 | Listen, I was befuddled at first when I only read a headline. |
1:23.1 | That's always the case, if you only read, uh, that the CEO of Instacart, |
1:29.1 | uh, |
1:29.8 | uh, |
1:30.1 | uh, |
1:30.4 | was coming over to become the CEO of applications at OpenAI. |
1:36.8 | Uh, |
1:37.8 | but then I immediately texted Andrew and Andrew, |
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