Olivia Troy is a lifelong Republican. She worked in the Trump administration as a Homeland Security and counterterrorism advisor to Vice President Pence and as his lead staff member on the COVID-19 response.

Then in 2020, she resigned, and she became a whistleblower, calling out the Trump administration's

response to the pandemic. Now Olivia is not only speaking out against Trump's bid for a second term,

she's voting for Kamala Harris and encouraging her fellow Republicans and her fellow Latinas to do the same.

Olivia and I have been on TV together many times, but today we're having a different conversation

about how a Mexican-American border kid who goes to kindergarten speaking only Spanish rises to the

highest rungs of the U.S. government, what she saw on the inside and how it's informed her own

political evolution.

Hi, friend. Hi. I am so excited to talk to you without needing to hit a commercial break six

minutes. You enter kindergarten, only speaking Spanish. You're the first person in your family

to go to college, and not any college. You go to an elite institution. You go to Penn.

And then you work inside the U.S. government.

Each of those leaps is unbelievable in and of itself and almost more unbelievable when you put

them all together. How does a border kid with no connections end up at the Republican National Committee straight out of

college?

My family was not political at all.

They had no connections to the political apparatus.

I end up a pen interning at the Republican National Committee.

And I sought out the Republican Congressman in Texas

and different foundations. And I ended up being an Eisenhower intern. I remember this because I was

like, am I the token Hispanic here? And by the way, I'm still artsy. I'm still wearing my black

goth leaning platform shoes walking into the R&C every day.

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