Welcome to the Breakdown to Breakthrough podcast.

My name is Lisa A. Romano.

I am a life coach, best-selling author, YouTube vlogger, meditation teacher, an expert in the field of codependency and narcissistic abuse.

I am a believer in the power of an organized mind.

My aim is to help people learn what it means to live above the veil of consciousness

rather than living a reactive life.

May your heart feel blessed, your mind feel expanded, and your spirit find hope

as you spend time with me here at the Breakdown to Breakthrough podcast.

Today, we're going to be talking about why a narcissist has such a strong need to turn

people against you.

So when we're talking about people with narcissistic traits or people who are on the spectrum

of narcissism, people who feel entitled to exploit the emotions of other people,

people who lack empathy for others. Healthy people are able to understand that everyone is a

mix of good and bad. But when we're dealing with people who have high narcissistic traits,

they have a difficult time with whole object relations. What I mean by that is that the healthier you are, the more

able you are to understand yourself as imperfect and the more able you are to understand

others as imperfect. And so you're not collecting people like trophies. You're not

idealizing them and then discarding them quickly the minute you have a disagreement. You are not

replacing them for people who seem better than they are. You don't grow bored easily of people who you have in your life for the

sake of narcissistic supply and needing to find a reason to discard someone in order to pull

another person in. Someone with high narcissistic traits will idealize their target. They will love bomb them.

Even in friendships, you'll find someone who you first meet who might have high narcissistic traits

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