Think about this question.

Who is the greatest living actor?

Who are the ten greatest actors or actresses?

It's a really tough question.

Tough to put ten names on that list.

Tough to decide who you leave out.

But that's certainly not the case for America's most insincere performance artist,

Mike Pence.

But do you ever wish that you had spoken up sooner, that you would come out and publicly conceded the election in the weeks before it got to the point that it got to, that you had said

something before then?

Well, honestly, Caitlin, I had frankly hoped all the way up

to the waning days before January 6th

that President Trump would come around on this issue.

I'd seen it many times. You'd talk about times

that we disagreed when I was vice president. I'd seen the president take a hard position on an

issue and then take the opposite position and then engage in a debate back and forth. And I'll

never forget that Monday night right before January 6th when he stood before a crowd in Georgia at a

rally. And I had been in Georgia earlier in the day rallying folks for that special Senate election.

And I remember he said, Mike Pence has got to come through for us. And if he doesn't, I won't like him

so much. And then he paused and said, no, no, one thing you know about Mike is he's always

going to do the right thing. And I remember in that moment, Caitlin, thinking, maybe he's coming

around and starting to see that the people that had told him that I had some authority that

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