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What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood | Parenting Tips From Funny Moms

Why Kids Lie: What’s Normal, What’s Not, and What to Do

What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood | Parenting Tips From Funny Moms

What Fresh Hell: Laughing in the Face of Motherhood

Parenting, Kids & Family, Comedy

4.6962 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Margaret and Amy discuss the surprisingly normal reasons kids lie—and why it’s not always a sign of bad behavior. From toddlers covered in cake who swear they didn’t eat it, to teens who “forget” to mention that party in the woods, we unpack how lying is often a developmental milestone, not a moral failure. We discuss: When kids first start lying—and what brain developments make it possible The role of theory of mind and executive function in fibbing How to tell the difference between a harmless whopper and something more concerning Why habitual lying could point to deeper issues—and how to address them without shame The importance of “truth checks,” “consequence resets,” and staying on the same side of the net as your kid Here are links to some of the resources mentioned in the episode: Jennifer Soong for WebMD: 8 Mistakes Parents Make With Preschoolers Beth Arky for childmind.org: Why Kids Lie and What Parents Can Do About It Harold S. Koplewicz, MD for childmind.org: When should you get help for a child who’s a habitual liar? Sarah Gonser for Parents: A Parent's Guide to Lying and Age-Appropriate Consequences Xiao Pan Ding et al for Hangzhou College of Preschool Education: Theory-of-Mind Training Causes Honest Young Children to Lie Susan Pinker for Wall Street Journal: Children’s Lies Are a Sign of Cognitive Progress Zawn Villines for Good Therapy: Why Do Children Lie? Normal, Compulsive, and Pathological Lying in Kids Our Fresh Take with Harold Koplewicz Sign up for What Fresh Hell Plus on Supporting Cast to get all episodes ad-free, plus monthly bonus episodes. Supporting Cast works right where you already listen! Go to whatfreshhell.supportingcast.fm to subscribe in two taps for just $4.99 a month, or $39.99 a year. We love the sponsors that make this show possible! You can always find all the special deals and codes for all our current sponsors on our website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.whatfreshhellpodcast.com/p/promo-codes/ mom friends, funny moms, parenting advice, parenting experts, parenting tips, mothers, families, parenting skills, parenting strategies, parenting styles, busy moms, self-help for moms, manage kid’s behavior, teenager, tween, child development, family activities, family fun, parent child relationship, decluttering, kid-friendly, lying in kids, kids lying Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Developmentally appropriate.

0:05.0

What fresh hell.

0:07.0

Laughing in the face of motherhood.

0:10.0

I have four ponies at my house.

0:12.0

With Margaret Ables and Amy Wilson.

0:14.0

I love a little theory of mind, Amy.

0:17.0

A podcast that solves today's parenting dilemmas

0:20.0

so you don't have to.

0:21.3

They could tell from my face that might not have been such a good idea.

0:31.3

Hello and welcome to what fresh hell laughing in the face of motherhood.

0:34.9

This is Margaret.

0:36.0

And this is Amy.

0:36.8

Today we're going to talk about

0:38.5

why kids lie, ages and stages, when it's normal, when it's not normal, what to do about it,

0:44.8

and all that stuff we usually do. We're going to solve it completely in the next 40 minutes or so.

0:49.3

First of all, love that for us. Love that for our listeners. That's not a lie.

0:52.2

Lying is one of those things that I think we attach morality to that is maybe not there.

0:58.7

Oh, interesting. And I think that's a really interesting, that lying is somehow the sign of a bad child.

1:07.2

Bad children lie and good children tell the truth. Right, right. Whereas it turns out all

1:13.0

children lie for developmentally appropriate reasons and some, you know, a lot and whatever.

1:18.5

Okay, so let's start with ages and stages of lying because interestingly, babies, toddlers,

1:25.9

like ages, you know, zero to somewhere between two and three,

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