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Why It's So Hard for Apple to Move Production from China to India

Odd Lots

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🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

President Trump wants Apple to make iPhones in America. The company itself has talked about — and to some extent already has been — moving more of its production to other countries, like India. But in reality, Apple remains deeply, deeply enmeshed in the Chinese supply chain. In fact, the rise of Apple, and the iPhone specifically, is the ultimate example of the link between the American and Chinese economies. And while this has been fruitful for shareholders all around the world, and contributed greatly to Chinese economic development, this relationship is also now perceived to be a huge source of geopolitical vulnerability for the United States. On this episode, we speak with Patrick McGee, a reporter at the Financial Times and the author of the new book Apple In China: The Capture of the World's Greatest Company. He talks to us about how Apple discovered the opportunity of doing more manufacturing in China, and how close the company has become with Chinese political leadership. We walk through both the politics and the economics that makes it almost impossible to imagine the company building its products anywhere else at significant scale.

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0:00.0

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0:55.7

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0:59.3

Tracy, we're doing another live show, and it's right here in New York City.

1:02.6

Yeah, this one should be our biggest yet. And we're going to have a bunch of Audlott's favorites

1:07.5

and do something maybe a little different to some of our previous live

1:12.7

podcast recordings. When the guests are revealed, the show is going to sell out right away.

1:17.5

So you should really just go get your ticket right now. It's June 26. It's at Rackett, NYC.

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And you can find a ticket link at Bloomberg.com slash oddlots or Bloomberg Events.com slash

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oddlots live and why.

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We hope to see you there.

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