Pod Squad Squad. Today we have the Super Bowl of what is happening in the world and you

should know that my sister just did a deep breath exercise with me 45 seconds ago so that I

wouldn't embarrass her when introducing these two because they truly are there is nobody that we could have in this moment

wiser and keener and more prepared to help us understand this moment than these two.

We have today Brittany Cooper, who is a professor of gender studies and

Africana studies at Rutgers University, and obviously the and

obviously the author of the New York Times bestseller, eloquent rage, an absolutely stunning book.

Rebecca Traster is obviously writer at large for New York magazine and the author of New York

Times bestsellers, All the Single Ladies and Good and and mad as well as the award-winning big girls

don't cry about gender race and class in the 28 elections.

Brittany and Rebecca, thank you for everything,

and thank you for being here with us for this hour.

We're very grateful.

Thanks for having us.

So glad to be here. Yes.

Okay, so let's just jump in.

So Brittany, in your recent article in the cut, you said you actually didn't think Kamala was the right candidate in

20 and even got slammed by the K-Hive for saying so. So has your opinion about

Kamala's candidacy changed and if so what's changed it for you?

Yeah, listen, I'm, you know, I guess in the K- Hive now, we're all K- Hive now,

and you know, what I was saying to Rebecca

before we started recording was,

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